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SInce "Bubble" from "BMO Lost" asked BMO to get married, BMO said "I do," so BMO Must Be Female
Still speculation man. After all, air is also genderless.00:24, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
To asserting that the definition has not changed following the fall of civilization and can occur between two inatinimate, personified object( a program and a gas) is preposterous, it does nothing to isolate BMOs gender. BMO is played genderless or androgenous, air has a deep male sounding voice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk • contribs)
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- Voice =/= gender 08:02, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Does anybody else think that BMO is bisexual, even though it is genderless? I mean, in BMO Noire it said that Loraine, who is obviously female, was hot, but aslo agreed to marry Air, who was most likely male. Any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Itzthelich (talk • contribs)
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- There is lots of discussion of this in the forums. 00:39, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
I agree. BMO and CMO are objects.20:18, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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Why is one of the catagories an origional character? He was never shown in the pilot episode. I would remove it, but i don't know how, can someone remove it plz? JosephTheElite (talk) 20:19, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
I don't think "it" is an accetpable pronoun for BMO. The characters never use "it" to refer to BMO, but use both "he" and "she". "It" is never used to talk about people in English. The AP style guide could provide more on this. Is it acceptable to change the pronouns before the gender section to "he" and afterwards to interchangably "he" or "she"?
Yeah, I think so.11:21, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
- No. We've been over this. BMO is genderless and sexless. We don't have any workable alternative than "it". 09:11, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
- BMO is a machine, powered by batteries. Therefore, an object. Even if said object has a personality, it is still an object and therefore should be referred to as "it." You know, imo. TRAPPED and ISOLATED 09:51, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
Using "it" as a subsititute for gender neutral pronouns is unacceptable. BMO's gender fluctuates during certain situations, but let's please remember there are real agender people in the world who hate being called "it." BMO may be a personified object, but is still sentient. They/them/their pronouns ey/em/eir pronouns or xe/xir/xim are all acceptable gender neutral pronouns in the absence of a consistent canon alternative. "It" for a sentient character needs to go. I propose they/them/their or ey/em/eir for the time being.—Preceding unsigned comment added by PrincessMars (talk • contribs)
- Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~).Heeeeeeeeeeeere's JOHNNY !!! 21:59, December 18, 2013 (UTC)
I think "it" works fine. As I pointed out in this forum, "According to The Adventure Time Encyclopaedia pg. 69 (written from Hunson Abadeer's point of view) the entry on BMO states, 'This machine is obviously genderless and is referred to as It in its worthless instructional pamphlet, which I have included for reference on page 109.' The page with the pamphlet copy does refer to BMO as 'it'. If the contents of this book are considered canon, there you go."
I think ey/em/eir and xe/xir/xim would be confusing to most people, I had to look them up. Although, to avoid offending anyone, maybe variants like "s/he", "him/her", "his/hers", etc. could be used as they are, imo, more common and less confusing than invented pronouns. --Hunson (talk) 23:15, December 18, 2013 (UTC)
Ey/em/eir and other gender neutral pronouns are way more appropriate than "it." A quick google search is easy enough to figure out, and we could even use they/them/their if needed. It's not a natural part of human language to do everything along a harsh binary. Other languages like Swedish have even recently created nationally held gender neutral pronouns. In casual conversation, we refer to people whose gender we don't know as "they." In the show this is even done; i.e. "If someone tries to hurt Finn, I will kill them." This isn't just about being offended; there are real life people who don't fit along a simple gender binary, who gender neutral pronouns fit better than anything and who have to face being called "it" sometimes. BMO is a MAIN CHARACTER. Robot or not, BMO deserves respect of personified pronouns. BMO is more than an object. If we allow characters like Neptr who are also robots to have personified pronouns (he), BMO deserves the same. In fact a lot of BMO's character is about feeling isolated and ostracized partly because of gender and partly because of being a machine; only look at the "real baby boy/baby girl" scenes. At the very least, we should use they/them/their or rewrite the article to avoid pronouns. Looking at "it" disgusts me, and it makes me uncomfortable whenever I see that referring to a character with a complex and multifaceted personality having that stripped away by people who are confused because BMO does not fit along a distinct male/female binary. PrincessMars (talk) 16:49, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
Also, this issue should go up for a poll. Obviously from the page, I am not the only one that feels this way. We should have a poll whether or not "it" should stay and then if the consensus is no, we should have another poll for what pronouns to use. I don't know if it's possible, but if we can open up to readers in general, many people use the wiki as readers who do not have accounts here. BMO is an important character with several centric episodes, and many people's favorite. I hate to see "it" continue. PrincessMars (talk) 16:52, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
Unless a person says that they prefer being called "it", you should never call a person "it" (if you call agender people "it" without their permission, you are a terrible person and should feel bad and stop doing that). "They" works well in the absence of a clear preference from the individual, and sounds so natural you probably didn't notice that word choice in the previous sentence. Unless we're going with "BMO is not a person", which would imply that BMO needs to be moved from the Characters category and into Objects. Betsumei (talk) 04:33, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
I'm late to the party, but I'm throwing my two cents in. Even offence takes a back seat to canon. As mentioned above, it is referred to as it in its owner's manual, so you can take all the offence you want, but that doesn't make it wrong. Egingell 19:17, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
It's offered that BMO singing the song about being pregnant in "James Baxter the Horse" is evidence of him being a girl, but the lyrics of the song itself cast doubt. "BMO, how'd you get so pregnant? Who's the mother? Who's the father?" I think the obvious conclusion that BMO herself doesn't know or care whether he should be paired with a woman or man is far more significant to the matter of her gender than the fact that he's pretending to be pregnant. Either the implications of the lyrics should be added or the mention of the song should be removed.RanWasHere (talk) 15:16, February 20, 2014 (UTC)
The owners manual is not significant evidence to use 'it' as a pronoun for BMO, this is because the owners manual is written by BMO's creator(s) not BMO. As BMO is a sentient character their creator is ananogous to their parents, 'it' is a pronoun assigned by their parents, not them. We respect the pronouns people assign to themselves, not that their parents or anyone else foists upon them. They is a suitable gender-netural pronoun to use until BMO tells us otherwise.
Also pregnency does not imply a gender, this is gender essentialism, the idea that gender is defined by anatomy.
Pregnancy means nothing, there have been pregnant men. BMO referring to itself as something also means nothing as people can (and will) use pronouns different from their birth gender. I feel this is something we should go with Word of God about, but that's me. It or They are fine pronouns for now, just make sure the article only sticks with one throughout the entire thing. dave strider // knight of time 22:52 Mon Feb 9
BMO is possibly genderfluid Edit
If you can't read what it says:
"BMO is awesome. He's pretty much everything we ever need. He's a video game console, a camera, a video-editing system, a flashlight and a movie player. Pretty much anything electronic. Sometimes he's also a she. It depends on what game we're playing, or what mood BMO's in."
I thought Beemo might have been named after Bob Bemer. Would've been a nice tribute.Esc