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This is definitely the most used navigational template. Since new episodes come out every week, it adds a bunch of new characters, and it's tough to update this. Waddle D33 21:08, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I was just thinking there might be a better way to classify the characters here. Also, do we really want to have the template include every single character, no matter how minor? Its not even complete now, and by season 2 it's probably going to get awkwardly large. --Cornprone 12:43, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
Maybe there could be a new template for each season, but I still think it will take up a lot of space. The only other idea I have is to make the links to the characters smaller, but that won't really help much. Waddle D33 21:17, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

So we were discussing on my talk page ways to revamp this nav template. OK, so the problem is that the template is slowly becoming too cluttered and hard to read, right? My thought is, maybe really minor characters (for example Skeleton Baby or Video Game Girl) could be dropped from this template. The Minor character navbox should still remain on every character's page so people can navigate from there, but the navbox just wouldn't list every character. If people want a list of every single character, they can just look at Category:Characters anyway. Now as to which characters would be dropped from the nav, that would have to be a judgment call. The criteria I'd suggest would be if the character A.) Only appeared once and B.) Their appearance was very short and C.) They did not play an important role in the episode's plot, then they should be considered too minor to be included on the template. --Cornprone 00:56, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't mind trimming it down, but the characters we drop should still be linked to somehow because we'd end up with a bunch of orphan pages. Maybe we could include a link to the character category in the template so at least they could navigated to easily. --Moocowisi 01:58, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Some of the ones that I think should be dropped are:
The ones that are REALLY minor are in bold, and have had about 4 seconds of screen time. Those are the ones that should be dropped first, and if more space is needed, the others can be taken out. Waddle D33 23:42, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
I agree with most of your selections, especially the ones in bold. I'd maybe keep some of the other ones like Science Cat & Shark, Dolphin, Stanley, and Brain Beast, because they were the stars of at least one substantial scene and they had an interesting interaction with Finn and Jake. --Cornprone 00:29, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that's pretty good. I feel bad leaving guys out, though, so we should probably make sure the characters we take out are linked to on their episode page under a miscellaneous heading or something like that. Some of these (like Cloud People and Sign Zombies) aren't even characters, they're species. Maybe they should go in their own separate template. --Moocowisi 01:29, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

UpdatesEdit

OK, continuing the discussion we were having above a few months ago, I'm going to go ahead a trim down some of those super minor characters and start adding in characters from season 2, because this has not been updated in a while. Thanks. --Cornprone 04:43, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I've done the update. I also removed all the princesses from this nav, because they already have a nav that should be on all princess pages. --Cornprone 05:08, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. I've found a few more characters that I think should be dropped from the template:

I've done my best to follow the criteria listed above. Also, it would be good if there were links to these characters either on their featured episode or on other character pages before these guys get removed. Waddle D33 02:11, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

QuestionEdit

Should the really minor characters have this template on their page? Waddle D33 21:14, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think yes, they should. The only reason we're trimming characters out of this template is so that the template doesn't get too big. But we might as well keep it on minor character pages to do what it's meat to do: help people browse through other characters. --Cornprone 23:13, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oranization by seasonEdit

Yeah, I think the template should be organized by the season each character appeared in, like Template:Music. Sky Monster 21:46, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I'm sorry. wrong template. I meant Template:Songs. Sky Monster 21:49, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it probably should be organized somehow. So you're saying there would still be a "Recurring" section at the top, then all the other characters would be organized by season? That sounds pretty good. --Cornprone 23:24, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, and if they appear in more than one season (like the Lich), they can go in the "Recurring character" section. Sky Monster 23:47, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
OK, I like the idea. If you want to try it, go ahead. If you have any trouble with the code/formatting, let me know. --Cornprone 23:58, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
Alright, I will get started on this. Sky Monster 02:12, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
Hm. I did all the season 1 characters and it is pretty big now. Will this be a problem? It is one column and is spaced out enough to read. But should the characters that are too minor be removed? Sky Monster 05:17, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
Well, one things for sure... I'm removing all the animals from "Memories of Boom Boom Mountain." I won't add any animals from "Story Telling" in the Season 2 section, either. Sky Monster 05:26, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, if you look at earlier parts of this talk page, we already discussed characters that are too minor and therefore should be left off. I think those should still be left off. It's a judgment call, but if a character did not play an important role in an episode, I'd say omit them from this template. --Cornprone 06:20, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
One more thing: I think "Recurring" should still mean characters that appeared in more than episode, not more than one season, which is apparently what you're changing it to. --Cornprone 06:22, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I know. I just thought I would add all the characters first, then remove the ones that are too minor. I think we can add more than usual in each season, since they are spaced out and easier to read. Also, I don't know if they might get their own navigation template, but I will add a "comics" column for the comic book characters. Sky Monster 04:19, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
This is basically finished. So, what do you think? I like it much better than before. It is easier to read, and easier to find characters from certain seasons. I know the Season 1 column should be trimmed down, so I will edit it. Sky Monster 05:18, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, the "Season 1" section needs reduction, but otherwise it looks good. --Cornprone 23:05, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
Can you remove the season 1 characters that you think should be removed? I'll try to remove all the characters in that list up in the page. I don't know who else to remove. Sky Monster 21:32, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
OK, basically the criteria I'm using is if a character didn't really play a role in the episode's story and their appearance was very brief. There aren't too many season 1 characters still on the template that I'd remove, but I'll take a look. --Cornprone 22:52, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
Oh. I thought that a character should be on the template if the character was on-screen for a while. But I guess that makes sense, too. Now I know who to remove. Sky Monster 02:36, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

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